Technique, style, tutorials...

Post by **mahon** » 25 Jan 2006, o 23:35

Przemas wrote:I regret that when I was starting the hobby there was no source I could learn from. This left me vulnerable to some dangers when tons of online tutorials apeared. Now I feel that I made a progress from a technical point of view, but I have to go back to basics to redefine, to find my own style.

I totally agree with you, Przemas. Good point!
I remember that in the first years (about before 2002 IIRC) of my painting I was supported on,y by Mike McVey's articles in white dwarf, which were.. basics, I must say, and often pushed into ways which had to be abandoned later. Now many articles and tutorials are much easier to find, and the community is in better contact, so learning and exchanging experiences became easier.
But as for the style, you mentioned - there's something in it. Nobody will create your style. Nobody will teach you style. That's something people have to develop by themselves... Agreed?

Scibor · Post by **Scibor** » 26 Jan 2006, o 00:07

I have to write one explanation - Hashmallum write something but I took with Him - I am shure that He has not bad intention. I do not want to anybody think that I have any bad feeling to Hashmallum or Leprechaun - I now that they are nice guys and I just sculpt figure of Leprechaun for them. I only gave link to Cyrils opinion.

Greetings for Leprechaun studio.
Scibor

Post by **Skrit** » 26 Jan 2006, o 11:41

mahon wrote:
Przemas wrote:I regret that when I was starting the hobby there was no source I could learn from. This left me vulnerable to some dangers when tons of online tutorials apeared. Now I feel that I made a progress from a technical point of view, but I have to go back to basics to redefine, to find my own style.
I totally agree with you, Przemas. Good point!
I remember that in the first years (about before 2002 IIRC) of my painting I was supported on,y by Mike McVey's articles in white dwarf, which were.. basics, I must say, and often pushed into ways which had to be abandoned later. Now many articles and tutorials are much easier to find, and the community is in better contact, so learning and exchanging experiences became easier.
But as for the style, you mentioned - there's something in it. Nobody will create your style. Nobody will teach you style. That's something people have to develop by themselves... Agreed?

Now I like where this discussion is going!

When I first started I too only had the painting guides done by Mike McVey and the Eavy Metal team. I soon realized that that style wasn't meant for me and luckily for me I had someone in my area who was way ahead of his time at that moment. He taught me stuff like blending and such...

Although my style has changed over the years and they have no more influence by his, he still taught me valuable basics. Which without, I would have been a much worse painter today...

So... Thank you Aiko!:D

Post by **Demi_morgana** » 26 Jan 2006, o 12:11

I remember my first minis...
I had only 6-7 acrylic humbrol paints and tutorial about paiting pretorian stalker and husar seregant from warzone

NAVARRO · Post by **NAVARRO** » 26 Jan 2006, o 12:26

tecnique and style are both ingredients of an artistic expression i think learning tecniques are the starting point but only wen you mastered them and insert your own deviations and shortcuts then the style starts to form...

thats personal and very intuitive almost considered a bit of the soul of the artist but do not be fooled it can be replicated, almost everything can be copied in art.

well i cant really say that i had miniature tutorials on my time, what saved me was my own backgound.

Post by **mahon** » 26 Jan 2006, o 12:53

Skrit wrote:Now I like where this discussion is going!

Same here... let's keep it this way

Post by **Nameless** » 26 Jan 2006, o 13:10

mahon wrote:Same here... let's keep it this way

I suggest moving few recent posts to a new topic. We are supposed to talk about Scibor here

DONE
Mahon

Gottkaiser · Post by **Gottkaiser** » 26 Jan 2006, o 14:22

It must have been 2 or 3 years in the past, when I stumbled over the link to the headblast site.
Before, I was a really good painter in my area, noone there to teach me new techniques, noone interested in those, either.
The online community made learning so easy I'm really surprised how much I could improve and I wonder where this might go.
For all the Tutorials I read and used, it's a shame I don't have my long planned website up, though I have already webspace...

Mordred · Post by **Mordred** » 26 Jan 2006, o 14:50

this was a problem for me when I start painting with acryllics. there were little people in my home town who could teach me anything, so I started browsing the web for inspiration. I have learned a lot from some tutorials and looking at other miniatures, but I have learned almost all my real techniques like blending etc. by just practicing alot. Nobody can teach you how to hold a brush and how to get the paint flow right.

ToMaZ · Post by **ToMaZ** » 26 Jan 2006, o 15:04

I started painting 2 and a half years ago. Basically internet taught me everything that I know right now ^^ Chatting buddies, Forums, Online articles and currently my uni education.
Never really cared about painting guides in books etc. Because most of the time, those painting guides are for creating decent tabletop armies, while I wanted to paint better than that

Still I'm learning a lot from over the net. When I go to the club, I'm one of the better painters, and I hardly get any constructive critisism. If I show a miniature there, it's WOW... when I show the same mini here it's like: nice, but it can be a lot better. Improve this this this and that... That's what I like, what keeps me trying to improve my painting style/technique and trying to find new things to do.

Despite the current jealousy etc, I really think the net is a magnificent place for us. I think that if I had to judge my painting on the comments in the club, I would have considered myself a really really good painter. Now on the net, I know that I'm somewhere between all those average painters

(at least I hope I'm average

)

I keep learning, like yesterday, I painted nmm gold AND it actually looks like nmm gold ... hurrah!!!

Sad that I don't have my first painted mini anymore, as it would show the progress I made in those 2 1/2 years. Comparing a nurgle chaos warrior, dipped in pure green ink with the one I'm painting now would have been fun though

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