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WiP Battle Wizard

Posted: 5 Jul 2012, o 17:51
by BlackDog
Just wanted to put up some shots of my latest project, a Battle Wizard for Warhammer Fantasy Battle. He is still thoroughly WiP: the eyes need painted, the cloak needs more highlights, the hands are rough, the flames need finished, and a bunch of other little things need attended to. Oh, and the base needs done.

Here are the pictures!

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Let me known what you think!

~BlackDog

Re: WiP Battle Wizard

Posted: 5 Jul 2012, o 22:53
by Maru
o hello ther /:) i c a Corvus fan :P (lookad at blog )
wich also meani checked your other minis
so i c thar dark linking end some other clasy tech - things that immissing is clean effect moust thingl looks a bit messy - meybe a new good brush ?? (what brush you are using atm ? )
About mage - his robes got inked ??
if yes - well thats not good - now they look like dirty one - in shadows
other thing is - it looks flat (the orange cap) i would sugest using GLAZE tech end add red color to all orange - morered in direction of base (so glesing starts at half the robe end each brush stroke ends at end of rombe - in that wey mouist pigment wil end on ends /)

your painting looks so much like out of GW book How to paint : "XY" - is that ?? em i right

if so we wil have for you some exorcize how to paint better end actualy how to forget somebad habbits from thous books

Chers end welcame on Forum

Re: WiP Battle Wizard

Posted: 6 Jul 2012, o 00:46
by BlackDog
Yeah, he is a bit messy. I've been using the cheap "The Army Painter" brushes, though I just got an size 0 brush and size 1 brush from the Windsor & Newton Series 7. They are really expensive, but if they turn out to be half as good as I have heard they are, then the price will have been a good investment.

I did wash the robes. I tried several other ways of adding depth to the model without washes, but none of them worked. Plus, as I'm going for a style that looks good on the tabletop, washes and the other "clasy tech" styles are what I need to go for.

I like the idea of giving the robe a red glaze, and will have to try it out, since I have a good amount of wash mediums winging their way towards me in the mail. He did look quite flat in those WiP photographs. Since they have been taken, I have added another layer of highlights to the model.

And no, I have never read the "How to Paint Citadel Miniatures" book, though I do kinda like the GW style. It is not very subtle, but subtlety is not what is needed if you are painting up multiple units of 50 Empire Halberdiers.

Re: WiP Battle Wizard

Posted: 6 Jul 2012, o 01:25
by Maru
And no, I have never read the "How to Paint Citadel Miniatures" book, though I do kinda like the GW style.
Good in thous books ther is a lot of "bad" techs that give effect but actualy are a barier in future progress

Gw Style is okey is so called EM style end we mey divide it on 2 old EM - Classic 1 end New EM a well just new
end actualy non of them use washes as washes :P - rather glazes
I did wash the robes. I tried several other ways of adding depth to the model without washes, but none of them worked.
trayed starting from bright color then "glaze in" shadows made from complementary (+ base) color ?? - thats actualy one of best ways
washes and the other "clasy tech" styles are what I need to go for.

yes end no ... fastest way is always Air brush end " Diping "

but if you whana get Classy EM style - washes end inks - only for metaliks , end for saturacion - not for shadows - old Classy EM style is CLEN .. paintfuly clean

ther are ppl on forum like Mahon who can told you a lot of this particular style
end let me sey this Classy style won a lot of Golden Dildos end Sluty Sworlds :lol:

Re: WiP Battle Wizard

Posted: 6 Jul 2012, o 04:29
by BlackDog
Maru wrote:
And no, I have never read the "How to Paint Citadel Miniatures" book, though I do kinda like the GW style.
Good in thous books ther is a lot of "bad" techs that give effect but actualy are a barier in future progress

Gw Style is okey is so called EM style end we mey divide it on 2 old EM - Classic 1 end New EM a well just new
end actualy non of them use washes as washes :P - rather glazes
I did wash the robes. I tried several other ways of adding depth to the model without washes, but none of them worked.
trayed starting from bright color then "glaze in" shadows made from complementary (+ base) color ?? - thats actualy one of best ways
washes and the other "clasy tech" styles are what I need to go for.

yes end no ... fastest way is always Air brush end " Diping "

but if you whana get Classy EM style - washes end inks - only for metaliks , end for saturacion - not for shadows - old Classy EM style is CLEN .. paintfuly clean

ther are ppl on forum like Mahon who can told you a lot of this particular style
end let me sey this Classy style won a lot of Golden Dildos end Sluty Sworlds :lol:
I like that glazing idea. I think I will give it a go this weekend.
When using that glazing technique, should I do my highlights before or after?

Thanks!
~Euen

Re: WiP Battle Wizard

Posted: 6 Jul 2012, o 15:21
by Maru
another tip when you gona go for glazing - dont start with desired base color (a mid tone you desire) start with base + highlight as a base
end glaze that in this wey you will get mid tones that got nice transicion to shadows , end shadows , after that as "base" whas actualy "base + highlight color" you got alrdy first highlight done - so just finish it end done ^-^

Re: WiP Battle Wizard

Posted: 6 Jul 2012, o 18:32
by BlackDog
Maru wrote:another tip when you gona go for glazing - dont start with desired base color (a mid tone you desire) start with base + highlight as a base
end glaze that in this wey you will get mid tones that got nice transicion to shadows , end shadows , after that as "base" whas actualy "base + highlight color" you got alrdy first highlight done - so just finish it end done ^-^
So, let me see if I have got it:

I need to basecoat the cloak in my base color (the new Blood Red), then...
...do my first highlight (Blood Red + Troll Slayer Orange), then...
...I need to start glazing with a slightly darker color than Blood Red, or just pure blood red? And as I glaze, I need to get darker and darker and I need to place the glaze lower and lower on the cloak, right? I will try and make my my glazes very transparent, so I will need to use plenty of the acrylic medium (I'm using Lahimian Medium, since I've heard good things about it. I will probably switch to the Vallejo equivalent once I run out of Lahimian; Vallejo is always very affordable, whereas GW overcharges a lot of the time).

Re: WiP Battle Wizard

Posted: 6 Jul 2012, o 20:20
by Maru
I need to basecoat the cloak in my base color (the new Blood Red), then...
...do my first highlight (Blood Red + Troll Slayer Orange), then...
nop
your base coat is your first highlight :)
Blood Red + Troll Slayer Orange = base coat
First glaze = basecoat = Blood Red
And as I glaze, I need to get darker and darker and I need to place the glaze lower and lower on the cloak
lower parts end deeper 1 - ther wher shadows would actualy apear in real :)
I will try and make my my glazes very transparent, so I will need to use plenty of the acrylic medium
good idea but Water on Wet Pslette will do :) end actualy it is extremly usable

https://paintingmum.blogspot.com/2011/04 ... lette.html

https://www.reapermini.com/forum/index.p ... opic=32050

2 realy good tutorials about wet blending / glazing end Wet palete :)