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frozen river
Posted: 17 Nov 2009, o 22:09
by Zaran
long time no see :/ i had a lot of work and studies to catch up and i;ve been doin only crappy comissions to have something to eat
anyway now i'm trying to make a frozen river base for my gyrocopter and i was wondering if anyone has any useful links of how to obtain the best frozen river effect. I once saw some tutorial in which a guy used transparent plastic and glued it to the painted surface but i can't find it and it's crucial to move on :]
Thanks in advance for any useful pieces of advice or links

Re: frozen river
Posted: 18 Nov 2009, o 08:46
by arctica
Ana did an awesome Rhinox model which had a frozen river thingy going. I am sure she or Mahon could offer some advice, if i find some pics i'll post them for you.
Re: frozen river
Posted: 18 Nov 2009, o 10:50
by mahon
this was quite a chore to make... IIRC it was filling a form with clear resin, then applying another one on top of this to make the ice. I will check if we have any information on what was used but I doubt it, as it was more than two years ago...
Anyway, I think it may be too difficult for a gaming base (which I suppose is what you're talking about). I think it would be better to use a layer of milky, semi-transparent plastic or glass. Or clear plastic smeared with some kind of glue which makes it matt and rough (I believe some glues for plastic make clear plastic slightly white). Should be easier to cut or break into pieces you would like...
Re: frozen river
Posted: 18 Nov 2009, o 14:23
by Zaran
uhm and if i was to decide that breaking into pieces would be a nice option how could i achieve the best floating blocks of ice effect? some transparent plastic pieces covered in glue to make it milky (what glue then?)? And what snow scatter could you recommend?
Re: frozen river
Posted: 18 Nov 2009, o 14:29
by mahon
for snow there are many options - from modeling "snow effects" like Tech Star snow, through baking soda, to baking flour or even fine sand...
I usually mix some baking soda with white glue to create thick mass which is used by me to build the bulk of thick snow. I usually add some white or off-white paint to the mix. Then I sprinkle the snow effect onto it and wait for it to dry. Then I remove the excess and the snow is ready
As for the glue used to make clear plastic more milky - well, you have to make your own experiments with different brands of superglues or plastic cements. I am sure you won't find any of the brands we use where you live...

Re: frozen river
Posted: 19 Nov 2009, o 09:24
by sea.man
I remember once seeing an article about making a frozen pond, sorry but I couldn`t find it any more. The ice layer on the pond was broken in the middle and the rough ice parts were made from a transparent plastic CD

here is another version of that idea
Click to see full-sized image
everything is described here:
https://www.voidgamers.com/channel/HADD9 ... r.463.html
here is a diorama with a frozen water:
https://www.planetfigure.com/forums/show ... 319&page=4
regards,
sea.man
Re: frozen river
Posted: 23 Nov 2009, o 13:54
by Marek
For snow I have found the following thing not bad: I mix modelling snow flocks (GW's in my case) with water effect (Vallejo still water in my case), to get a thick paste. This applied to any surface gives after drying something which can be recognized as a pile of icy snow. You may cover it with snow flocks to get the feeling that it has been snowing recently. To get ice, just make the mixture more thin and transparent (less flocks, more water). You may add some white, grey or mildly blue paint to it.
Using a piece of transparent plastic (like the one from blisters in which you buy minis) to get an ice cover is probably the best idea.
Re: frozen river
Posted: 24 Nov 2009, o 13:13
by Zaran
Ok this sounds reasonable but could you post some pics of bases done in this way?

For ice i used the blister plastic but now i'm figuring out the best way to achieve snow effect.
Re: frozen river
Posted: 24 Nov 2009, o 21:08
by Marek
Check my first post on this forum
https://www.chestofcolors.com/forum/view ... 627#p64627
The pics aren't good, but the first one shows more or less what I'm talking about. On the middle level of the stone there is a part with nearly icy surface, and a "pile of snow" as well. I'm sure it can be done better, though.
Good luck.