Chest of Colors forum

So the rules for the US GDs have finally been made the same for all four competitions it would seem. I'm personally neutral about that. But there's been some other changes...

https://gamesday.us.games-workshop.com/G ... _Demon.htm

Check the categories. As some folks here have already noted, there are now only 9 categories to enter. One of those is Youngbloods, so I'm just ignoring it. In the US the Open category cannot win the sword.

So, there's now only 7 categories in the US that can win a slayer sword.

40k vehicles and large models are going to be competing against each other. FB regiments, large models, war machines, and monsters are all going to be lumped together. They had already done away with Dioramas/Battlescene, and now they have done away with Duel (which won the sword at Chicago last year). So anything that could be considered a duel, a battle scene, or a diorama are all going to be lumped in with Open and will not be eligible for the sword. (Arguably, it can take more skill to put together those type of entries depending on what is done, and now they're not eligible in any way for the sword.)


Completely personally: I am a mid-grade painter at GDs. I do better than most people's tabletop quality (fuzzy-headed mutants excluded), but I'm not good enough to easily win a demon. Let's face it, I'm not the next Lilly Troy or Angela Imrie or Jen Haley. For me, its going to take a whole lot of time and effort and luck with who brings what to have a shot at a demon. (remember, while LOTR single wasn't that hard in Baltimore last year, it was a killer category in Chicago by who showed up) And that's under the old rules. Now that the categories are constricted, I honestly don't see how I'd have much of a chance. Where I used to have a shot at a bronze in some of the categories, they're now going to be over populated by incredible entries of more varieties.

Ok, this might be a good way to make it harder for the large group of incredible painters here that regularly walk in and take demons. They're not going to be able to spread their entries out as much, so its going to get tougher for them. Fine. But what about the people that used to have a shot at a bronze or silver, but really can't compete with Tom Schadle or Joe Orteza or Chris Bohrer or Scott Bowser. Sure this will help some of the categories that on occassion are inexplicably thin, but I think its going to make it so much harder on the mid-grade painters that its going to be discouraging.


Personally, I don't think I'm going to enter anything next year now. I was doing a 40k unit, but by these rules I'll have to put it in 40k vehicles. (think jetbikes) Ok, 40k unit is pretty tough thanks to all the frakkin' tanks. Now add in all the things that used to be in 40k Large Model. Its not happening.

Why waste my time? They're not a unit that I would use. They're so custom that I don't think anyone would buy them, and certainly not at a price that would be worth my time (which is very limited thanks to my job and so on). I could use the time to make as many entries for GenCon as possible where I would at least have a shot at some manufacturer prizes.



So... I'm interesting in hearing thoughts about this and what you think it means for next year's US competitions.

I shall put it in a sentence:

GW has an incredible talent to limit the options for a contest that actually should be a contest of creativity.

And it's not getting better...

imho they are not caring about the people that actually enter. they simply cant imagine why eg. you want to put a 40k single mini on a 40mm base because it gives you so much more possibilities to be creative.

then again how in hell do you compare a monster/vehicle to a squad. completely different thing.

yuck...

Aargh, typed a whole post and deleted it by accident!:(

Oh well... This is kinda sad news really. They scaled it down too much and while the Über painters will have more to compete the middle class painter is robbed of most of his chances!

i am with you trovarion!!

Yep, underline that, GW is a specialist in many rather uncool things concerning stupid decicions especiately on Games Days...^_^...

But ok, their contest, their rules...

Please show us some of your entries before Baltimore (I guess you plan to have a try there......)... Maybe we can help you out winning something......

oh yes tanya, I too think you should give your idea a try...it's too cool not to be done!!! just show 'em

I don't know... I am SERIOUSLY thinking, "Screw them!" (That's the clean version for the Forum's sake. ) I'm not completely decided, but that is sort of why I wanted people's thoughts. If folks can give me some good reasons to believe that my fear of what it means for painters like me in next year's competitions are unfounded, then I might consider still trying. But if everyone pretty much agrees with what I think its going to mean, then I'm probably going to spend my limited time and courage on something else.

I must say I think I agree with you. BUT it is no reason for being discouraged! You cannot plan a GD ahead, I'Ve been at two of them and on both it all was different from what I expected, just do it, do what you enjoy and then just bring it along, have fun with everyone else and make the best out of it, even if you dont place.
I still think your idea will impress people, people will remember it, I am sure!

Uhm, what is the idea, sorry, wasn´t here for a long time......

You didn't miss it, Matt. Its just not exactly public knowledge. And its something that involves lots of sculpting, so I'm not even certain I can pull it off. That's one of the big reasons I want other people's opinions about these new rules. This idea would take a lot of my time, and while it might have had a shot at a bronze previously, I now feel like it wouldn't have a shot at all since it would be up against tanks, demon princes, etc.

Have you seen what they plan for the categories, Matt?