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Klute wrote:I really think there is only one way to prove Scibor doesn't pirate these heads and its really quite simple. I would like to see some photos of Scibor sculpting a human head like those bald ones. From start to finish with inbetween shots. Its easy enough to do and will stop all the press moulding talk for the heads. He would still need to work on copywrite issues though.

but why should someone prove is own work is legit? havent all these clone debates on other forums proven that he has a clean conscience and dont feel the need to justify himself? he only feels the need to sculpt more and i say go for it

Artemis wrote:So because GW are rich it's ok to steal from them? How does that work exactly? "Your honour I broke into that guys house because I knew he wouldn't miss the few thousand I stole from him, he's a millionairre" "oh, ok then, you can go free"?

This is how we often try to justify our deeds. But I think we're all aware of how much it really means

Well I think we will have to agree to differ on this one, your point is a fair one but GW have taken steps before on a small scale Sophia produced a totally sculpted mini that she called the Lord of Pestilence and it looked Nurglish but it was her own sculpt it was for sale on e-bay and GW made e-bay shut the auction down, so they can if they want to end something without going to the length of suing no matter where in the world you are. Now that definately is my final word as if Scibor keeps producing minis that appeal to me I will buy them for as long as I am able. I also buy a hell of alot of GW stuff so this is not my way of snubbing GW.

NAVARRO wrote:

Klute wrote:I really think there is only one way to prove Scibor doesn't pirate these heads and its really quite simple. I would like to see some photos of Scibor sculpting a human head like those bald ones. From start to finish with inbetween shots. Its easy enough to do and will stop all the press moulding talk for the heads. He would still need to work on copywrite issues though.

but why should someone prove is own work is legit? havent all these clone debates on other forums proven that he has a clean conscience and dont feel the need to justify himself?

Have any of those debates actually ended with proof that he's not pressmoulding?

NAVARRO wrote:

Klute wrote:I really think there is only one way to prove Scibor doesn't pirate these heads and its really quite simple. I would like to see some photos of Scibor sculpting a human head like those bald ones. From start to finish with inbetween shots. Its easy enough to do and will stop all the press moulding talk for the heads. He would still need to work on copywrite issues though.

but why should someone prove is own work is legit? havent all these clone debates on other forums proven that he has a clean conscience and dont feel the need to justify himself? he only feels the need to sculpt more and i say go for it

He should prove his own work is legitimate because otherwise people will continue to call him a thief. As a businessman if people were calling 'me' a thief I'd do whatever was necessary to 'prove' I wasn't.

Of course if I was a thief I probably wouldn't have actually admitted to it in public.

Artemis wrote:He should prove his own work is legitimate because otherwise people will continue to call him a thief. As a businessman if people were calling 'me' a thief I'd do whatever was necessary to 'prove' I wasn't.

I also told that to Demi_morgana - if he showed photos proving it's his work (large photos so that the doubters can judge by themselves) he'd only close some mouths and maybe earned some (more) respect as a sculptor...

@Kev the Hasslefriessian:

He uses some molds and some parts are sculpted by him. I've seen many of his minis in person so I know he uses a combination of both.

Hasslefriesian wrote: Have any of those debates actually ended with proof that he's not pressmoulding?

dont know wen i see scibor on thread title and 750 replies i read in diagonal but now its on my turf

i detest any kind or form of moulding so? that doenst give me the right to bash on those who love it. not that you are bashing but ussually those threads for that.

@Artemis... you can call him watever you want, might not be polite or the truth but at the end of the day i think he simply doesnt care good for him

NAVARRO wrote:@Artemis... you can call him watever you want, might not be polite or the truth but at the end of the day i think he simply doesnt care good for him

It might not be, I happen to think it is the truth though.

And either way if he doesn't care then I'll add 'terrible businessman' to the list too. I've never met a businessman who doesn't care what his reputation is.

why doesnt Scivor himself get on here, and clearify what is real, and what is fiction.. shouldnt that stop this, since things are getting a tad ugly between certain members here....

It seems that Demi_morgana is his public relations guy, Scibor avoids such discussions....

But as Apocalyptic noticed - some of us got a bit far. Let's keep this thread polite...
Mahon