I totally agree that all (or at least most) 'fantasy' manufacturers don't follow correct anatomy or body proportions very strictly. Not a problem for me personally.
But, some people are not as tolerant and expect true or realistic proportions and anatomy. Can't blame them either. To each their own, I guess.
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Great scales comparsion! Thanks NAVARRO
I agree that Miniatures are usualy in so called "heroic" scale. And it's not a problem for me too. Heroic scale means - people look like heroes - they are higher, have more muscles. Some miniatures have enormous muscles just like Hulk
But you can't forget about anatomy structures: bones, muscles, skin - the way they all work and move. Even if you sculpt an alien, you should create him (in most cases) in such a way, that his anatomy looks possible to obtain.
So my opinion is that scultpting a mini in some different proportions (e.g heroic scale) doesn't allow you to do mistakes. Mistakes like these which I tried to show on the photo. Blue is more or less a skellet and green circles show mistakes (in my opinion)

People don't have arms so high. It's like monkey anatomy. Even if it's a sculpt made in heroic scale, it's a human. So it's a mistake for me.
Another thing is that there is to long area between his legs. I don't know what kind of hips he needs to have to be in such a position. So for me it's also a kind of mistake. People have different anatomy of legs. His legs look like this robot's legs:
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While looking on this PP mini I just can't imagine how is ot possible that there is a human inside this armour. I'm not a master of anatomy so please correct me if I'm wrong.
I agree that Miniatures are usualy in so called "heroic" scale. And it's not a problem for me too. Heroic scale means - people look like heroes - they are higher, have more muscles. Some miniatures have enormous muscles just like Hulk
But you can't forget about anatomy structures: bones, muscles, skin - the way they all work and move. Even if you sculpt an alien, you should create him (in most cases) in such a way, that his anatomy looks possible to obtain.
So my opinion is that scultpting a mini in some different proportions (e.g heroic scale) doesn't allow you to do mistakes. Mistakes like these which I tried to show on the photo. Blue is more or less a skellet and green circles show mistakes (in my opinion)

People don't have arms so high. It's like monkey anatomy. Even if it's a sculpt made in heroic scale, it's a human. So it's a mistake for me.
Another thing is that there is to long area between his legs. I don't know what kind of hips he needs to have to be in such a position. So for me it's also a kind of mistake. People have different anatomy of legs. His legs look like this robot's legs:
While looking on this PP mini I just can't imagine how is ot possible that there is a human inside this armour. I'm not a master of anatomy so please correct me if I'm wrong.
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well, you wouldn't think they could fit a man into R2D2, and yet they did 
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I know where your coming from mate I don't disagree that this makes little sense if the context is just finding one anatomic credible miniature.
The exaggeration is nuts, impossible in real life but makes total sense in PP universe or superhero comics, see my point? Its the balance between credible body/cartoon distortion you may even call it caricature.
BTW love orangutang pic
The exaggeration is nuts, impossible in real life but makes total sense in PP universe or superhero comics, see my point? Its the balance between credible body/cartoon distortion you may even call it caricature.
BTW love orangutang pic
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Thats why he walks so funny, his dangly bits are compressed to excruciating levels of pain.ToMaZ wrote:well, you wouldn't think they could fit a man into R2D2, and yet they did
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Maybe not a human, but Orc can surely fit into R2D2 dont you knwo that? It's so obvious
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And coming back to anatomy, maybe it's really just a matter of sence? Or rather a metter of what you are looking for in minis world. For me (a collector/painter/sculptor) anatomy is improtant. I think that this comic/superhero style may be achaived without so big anatomy anomalies. And if it may be done it such a way, that way would be a lot better one.
Many people (e.g many players) who don't care about anatomy issues may just not see these anatomy anomalies. Some time ago (quite a long time) when I start playing GW games I had no problems with GW terminators minis at all. When I start to be a collector/painter and get some anatomy knowlage, terminator anatomy became so ugly and unatural for me. What I want to say is that: what you see and how you judge it, depends strongly on your own perspective (which consists of knowladge and many many more things).

And coming back to anatomy, maybe it's really just a matter of sence? Or rather a metter of what you are looking for in minis world. For me (a collector/painter/sculptor) anatomy is improtant. I think that this comic/superhero style may be achaived without so big anatomy anomalies. And if it may be done it such a way, that way would be a lot better one.
Many people (e.g many players) who don't care about anatomy issues may just not see these anatomy anomalies. Some time ago (quite a long time) when I start playing GW games I had no problems with GW terminators minis at all. When I start to be a collector/painter and get some anatomy knowlage, terminator anatomy became so ugly and unatural for me. What I want to say is that: what you see and how you judge it, depends strongly on your own perspective (which consists of knowladge and many many more things).
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hey, I like this one. don't go pffff at it 
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too late for worst miniatures ever? 
I hate the look of the retribution "warjacks"
I hate the look of the retribution "warjacks"
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