Malleus: Intro & Showcase

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Re: Malleus: Intro & Showcase

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mahon wrote:Malleus, welcome to the forums. The works definitely look decent but there's much room for improvement. Now tell us if you want the gentle version or the harsh one. It's better to have a choice

Regarding Maru - English is not his first language and dyslexia makes his spelling even worse. If you have enough patience to try to understand his posts - you can benefit from them a lot. If you don't have enough of it - that's fine, no problem. But you'll be missing a lot of valuable comments
The harsh please :D
I know I have a lot I can improve, and that's exactly why I chose to join this community.

Regarding Maru's typing, I'll always make the effort to decipher it, just took a few go arounds last night hahahha
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Re: Malleus: Intro & Showcase

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Hi and welcome to the forum!
Good painting, good standard. Regarding NMM, I think you got it right but the colour selection isn`t correct. You can check Bohun`s thread, he posted a tutorial how he does it :)
mahon wrote:Regarding Maru - English is not his first language and dyslexia makes his spelling even worse. If you have enough patience to try to understand his posts - you can benefit from them a lot. If you don't have enough of it - that's fine, no problem. But you'll be missing a lot of valuable comments :(
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mahon wrote:Regarding Maru - English is not his first language and dyslexia makes his spelling even worse. If you have enough patience to try to understand his posts - you can benefit from them a lot. If you don't have enough of it - that's fine, no problem. But you'll be missing a lot of valuable comments :(
I didn't know that, but I have never made a problem about his language. I think 95% of the people here don't have English as their native language, so I really respect anyone trying.

Maru is very helpful indeed. Take your time to read his posts, the rewards will be great.
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Maru wrote:Welcome
1.
ther is a lot to improve in painting :) - but that whay youa re hear :)
i think besat 1 is Krooto marines end Shoilder pads on Krot shaper (spear looks nice to)
over all you paint clean
Sanguinary Gaurd - that mey be gr8 but thous photos .. well thats :

2.
Photos - you got nice eqipment - now time for some skills - go to photo topic on forum - end ask ther "how to improve my photos" - we will ansewr :)

then repost this minis - as i think "new" photos would show them better - as thous unintencionaly make your minis look "orange" end to dark
Warning, it's going to get pic heavy from here on out.
superb we love photos :)
1. There is a lot to improve in painting - but that's why you're here.
I think the best 1 is the Kroot marines and the shoulder pads on kroot shaper (spear looks nice too)
Overall your painting style is clean.
The Sanguinary guards - they may be great but those photos... (aren't? :))

2. Photos - you have a nice setup and equipment and just go to the photo topics in the forums and you will get answers on how to improve there.
and then post the pictures of your minis with your "new photos" to show them off - as the current photos unintentionally make your minis look "orange" and they are too dark.


PS: I think Maru does a great job on his English considering all the facts but what i like is actually if you read it phonetically it actually makes more sense to those who don't have English as a primary language so great job :) and his comments are very constructive so it's good to ask.
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regarding your painjobs:

they're really nice, clean and neat. I think my favorites would be the Blood Angels guy (sanguinary priest? Adonis? ;) ), the orc standard bearer and the kroot in power armor.
why are they the best of them all? because you used highlighting and shading on them in the most effective way - you emphasized the shapes of those sculpts to make them look more interesting.

as we often say here - painting models in this scale is mostly about exaggeration. you need to overdo most things to make them interesting - so your contrasts need to be overdone, lighting is best when it's dramatic, etc. make it all too subtle and you end up with flat or boring miniatures. that's the most important point.

now take the chaos sorcerer - what is he like? he's flat, he's boring. maybe your painting is precise and clean here, maybe it's detailed (but we don't see it on your photos) but it surely is too flat.

maybe the sorcerer looks like this because it's unfinished. that's fine - but at least it serves as a good example of what you should watch out for :)

now compare these two miniatures and their black-and-white versions. pay most attention to those B/W pictures. which one looks more interesting? which one is boring and monotoneous? which parts need some more work? which are fine already?

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of course it's just a simple trick to find what could be improved and it gives only some basic hints, but it's a good starting point for improvement.

and more can be discussed when we see bigger photos of your minis. not necessarily bigger photos as such, because we simply don't need to see the empty space around. simply crop them and then resize. do you know how to do it? if not - ask us :)
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Hmmm, there has been a lot of replies regarding my initial lack of understanding Maru's typing. I apologize for any kind of negative effect, I assure you it was not intended. Was simply a lil joke :)
I fully intend to read every post that he makes.

Thank you for some break down on the images Mahon. Would it be fair to say you are mostly referring to the 'Value' of the products?
Regardless I will see what I can do. Already half way though painting my current miniature, but I will start the next using these ideas.
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Don't worry about it too much mate, you're not the first being confused after one of maru's posts! ;)
After a while you'll get used to decyphering his messages and will find out they are often use- and helpful. :)
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as Arctica said, it's best to read them phonetically :)

and regarding the value - if you mean the value of colors applied, that's more or less what I mean. That's not the only tip, but a simple suggestion to trick your eyes to look at the minis in a different way, to break out from the scheme you got yourself into. Your technique seems to be good, now you only need to make your models more interesting for viewers - and you achieve it by exaggerating highlights and shadows a bit, this "overdoing" helps miniatures in small scale.

see - the models with strong differences in value look more interesting. there are also other kinds of contrasts you can use, but I wanted to point you to this one.
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there are also other kinds of contrasts you can use, but I wanted to point you to this one.
as this one is beggining to the others .. so it is quite good to start from begining :)

we alrdy got ppl who jump on deep water ... without lerning how to swim ... end it took some times to "save them" :wink:
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well said
we've already had such people and they prove that for every step you skip, you will eventually have to teturn to basics anyway...
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